When HBGary decided I’d be going to prison, they hired two FBI informants to start brainstorming crimes

Jennifer Emick, hired by HBGary and compensated by FBI, chats with Brandon Pike, weird fat kid who helped out for free

April 2011. Unknown IRC server.

ShadowDXS: Brandon Pike of Florida, a security guard and noted subject of fun throughout his brief stint associating with LulzSec

Asherah: Jennifer Emick, who worked directly with HBGary’s execs to harass, discredit, and imprison Anons in retaliation for the exposure of the criminal Team Themis plot involving subsidiary HBGary Federal, Palantir, Berico, and Endgame Systems

Namshub: Probably Emicks’ partner Hubris, originally portrayed as having been wounded in the service before some sordid argument prompted Emick to reveal it had been a motorcycle accident in some fucked up Midwestern state of the sort that seem to be producing most of these people

0ve it to you
[21:43] 	asherah	I have to account for who calls him
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	right
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	i understand
[21:43] 	asherah	if there's a free for all he may get annoyed with me :D
[21:43] 	ShadowDXS	right
[22:24] 	ShadowDXS	anything on this number?
[22:26] 	namshub	tomorrow dude
[22:26] 	namshub	even I can't call a fed at ten at night :P
[22:27] 	ShadowDXS	meh
[22:27] 	namshub	sorry, thought that was obvious
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	i forget what time is
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	never like the thing
[22:28] 	namshub	it can wait a day?
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	oh yeah
[22:28] 	namshub	ok, good
[22:28] 	namshub	yeah, guy has a day job
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	i'm not that worried about it, just didnt know if
you meant now or later
[22:28] 	namshub	and he is real decent
[22:28] 	namshub	and BB already annoyed the shit outta him
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	wow
[22:28] 	namshub	yeah
[22:28] 	ShadowDXS	i cut his mic off after 2 mins of him talking to him
[22:29] 	ShadowDXS	dude is like a fucking robot tard
[22:29] 	namshub	I gave him the line and he went straight in with
"hey, is fakegregghoush jennifer emrick?" like a fuicking jackass with
a death wiush
[22:29] 	ShadowDXS	i really dont see why BB is so scared about Backtrace
[22:29] 	ShadowDXS	i dont even care if your apart of it
[22:29] 	namshub	why wouldn't he be?
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	the name itself is a fucking meme for the love of god
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	the info they posted
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	dont mean anything
[22:30] 	namshub	the name wa spicked for a reason, sure
[22:30] 	ShadowDXS	but Anonymous is like: OMFG THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE
[22:30] 	namshub	but the info- was not meaningless
[22:30] 	namshub	lol
[22:30] 	namshub	several ano9ns have been whisked away
[22:31] 	namshub	there's a reson the smart ones stfu
[22:31] 	ShadowDXS	Anonymous used the mask as a symbol, and the new
kids dont know what that means
[22:31] 	ShadowDXS	its meant to say: we stand together. Not: Hide your ass
[22:31] 	namshub	lol
[22:31] 	namshub	maybe, yeah
[22:31] 	ShadowDXS	this is why i hate what Anonymous is
[22:31] 	namshub	yeah
[22:31] 	namshub	problem is
[22:32] 	namshub	in the end, they're just another mob
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	if the LOIC kids left, and the troll's and the
tards (BB) all left
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	then we would be good
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	but
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	till that happens
[22:32] 	namshub	there's worse than them
[22:32] 	ShadowDXS	i will not be apart of anonymous
[22:32] 	namshub	a core of opportunists
[22:32] 	namshub	who talk a lot about the evil bak system
[22:32] 	namshub	as a cover
[22:32] 	namshub	for nasty shit
[22:32] 	namshub	and those folks
[22:32] 	namshub	will go down HARD
[22:33] 	namshub	and woe to anyone swept up with them
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	i dont even see why this Backtrace gives a shit
about Anonymous
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	really
[22:33] 	namshub	and tht metalgear stupidity
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	i think its a waste of time
[22:33] 	namshub	because they thought they were invincible
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	the metalgear shit is something different
[22:33] 	namshub	what better opportunity to demonstrate otherwise?
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	its not a LOIC op
[22:33] 	namshub	metalgear is a fantasy
[22:33] 	ShadowDXS	prove it
[22:34] 	namshub	BUT
[22:34] 	namshub	I can't
[22:34] 	namshub	not without giving stuff away
[22:34] 	ShadowDXS	then dont speak about it XD
[22:34] 	namshub	but it's conspiracy theory
[22:34] 	namshub	opnopro
[22:34] 	namshub	is a pro spammer
[22:34] 	namshub	I will speak about it
[22:34] 	namshub	because there is a real chance
[22:34] 	namshub	their blundering around may expose real operatives
doing real NS work
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	what BB does, and what I and others do on OpMG is
two ttly different things
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	what he does
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	is for the press
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	what we are looking for
[22:35] 	namshub	the pentagon is not filled with evil jerks trying to
spy on ordinary people
[22:35] 	ShadowDXS	something else :D
[22:35] 	namshub	the stasi already showed the futility of such attempts
[22:36] 	namshub	well, believe mme or not, it doesn't exist
[22:36] 	namshub	and that comes from the ppl who are accused of cooking it up
[22:36] 	namshub	:P
[22:36] 	namshub	their only worry
[22:36] 	namshub	is that BB in his blundering about
[22:37] 	namshub	might expose anti-jihadis and other ppl working for
us interests
[22:37] 	namshub	I think we proved already that gathering intel on
people is easy
[22:37] 	ShadowDXS	true
[22:37] 	namshub	does not require sock puppet armies or any other silliness
[22:37] 	ShadowDXS	also true
[22:38] 	namshub	in fewer than three weeks with na cold start and no "ins"
[22:38] 	namshub	we got enough to hang the core of anonops
[22:38] 	namshub	the idea they'd go through such ridiculous effort and expense
[22:38] 	ShadowDXS	the funny thing is, i dont see the FBI doing much
about what they have
[22:38] 	namshub	when they didn't even know wtf anonymous really was
until a month ago
[22:38] 	namshub	well, it's a joke
[22:39] 	namshub	the FBI are working hard
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	i think the whole thing is a joke
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	BT,Anon and the Feds
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	as well as what drama jester had
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	most of the anonymous members that matter never
touch IRC servers
[22:39] 	namshub	well, anons make drama out of pointless stuff
[22:39] 	namshub	they don't realize
[22:39] 	ShadowDXS	Trollnonymous does
[22:40] 	ShadowDXS	yes
[22:40] 	namshub	that the FBI have beauracrats
[22:40] 	namshub	and they are not stupid
[22:40] 	namshub	they just have to be scrupulous
[22:40] 	namshub	a lot of the dox we got
[22:40] 	namshub	thatb we thought was original
[22:40] 	ShadowDXS	what most fail to realize, is that if you really
wanna nab Anonymous by the balls, look for who not there, not those
that are
[22:41] 	namshub	only confirmed what they knew already
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	i really think the IRC servers are just a front
[22:41] 	namshub	what i'm saying is, they know a lot
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	i bet they do
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	but
[22:41] 	namshub	they're just slow to put the evidence on apeper and move in
[22:41] 	namshub	paper
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	and that will hurt them
[22:41] 	namshub	and this time people fucked up bad
[22:41] 	ShadowDXS	they will get some small fry kids if they dont hurry up
[22:42] 	namshub	esp threatening infrastucture and bansk
[22:42] 	ShadowDXS	all the big fish will swim away
[22:42] 	namshub	banks
[22:42] 	namshub	nah
[22:42] 	namshub	some have been reeled in
[22:42] 	namshub	I can't discuss
[22:42] 	ShadowDXS	some
[22:42] 	namshub	but there's a reason behind some recent diappearances
[22:42] 	ShadowDXS	Topair was not apart of that :D
[22:42] 	namshub	and little fishes tattle on big fishes
[22:42] 	namshub	topiary is like BB
[22:43] 	namshub	a mouth
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	yup
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	you seen his facebook?
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	xD
[22:43] 	namshub	they got his id already
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	dude is a radio head
[22:43] 	namshub	don't think they care about him unless tyhey need him squealing
[22:43] 	namshub	radio head?
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	i'm glad to here they are not wasting their time with him
[22:43] 	ShadowDXS	dude is a DJ or something
[22:44] 	ShadowDXS	talk radio
[22:44] 	ShadowDXS	i think
[22:44] 	namshub	nah, they have a list
[22:44] 	namshub	tbh they're not even much interested in BB, although
I hear cali feds are
[22:44] 	namshub	lol
[22:45] 	ShadowDXS	dude has warrants
[22:45] 	namshub	yeah, but there are several fed investigations
[22:45] 	namshub	I am not assisting them all
[22:45] 	ShadowDXS	xD
[22:46] 	namshub	that said
[22:46] 	namshub	BB is not scott free
[22:46] 	namshub	he has attention fromk worse than feds
[22:46] 	namshub	and if I was you
[22:46] 	namshub	honest in jun
[22:46] 	namshub	I would steer way clear
[22:46] 	namshub	remember when jester had an influx of dc ips?
[22:46] 	namshub	that anons thought was aaron barr?
[22:47] 	ShadowDXS	yeah
[22:47] 	namshub	wadn't
[22:47] 	namshub	wasn't
[22:47] 	namshub	sorry, it's dark in here
[22:47] 	ShadowDXS	get a light bish
[22:47] 	ShadowDXS	xD
[22:47] 	namshub	lol
[22:47] 	namshub	eventually
[22:47] 	namshub	I have one, but it's no help
[22:48] 	namshub	anyway
[22:48] 	namshub	tldr is
[22:48] 	namshub	bb has all the attention he thought he wanted
[22:48] 	namshub	due to his quantico escapades
[22:48] 	namshub	that's all i can say
[22:48] 	namshub	I like you
[22:48] 	namshub	so...be careful
[22:48] 	ShadowDXS	well do
[22:48] 	namshub	can't stress enough
[22:49] 	namshub	that dude, not safe to be around
[22:49] 	ShadowDXS	trust me, i know
[22:49] 	namshub	and not due to his grand delusions re metalgear
[22:49] 	namshub	metalgear=crap
[22:49] 	namshub	none of that ever happened
[22:49] 	namshub	it's all 100% make believe
[22:50] 	namshub	not that they wouldn't like that sort of granular control maybe
[22:50] 	namshub	but it hasn't happened
[22:50] 	namshub	and would be fully illegal if it did
[22:50] 	ShadowDXS	right
[22:52] 	namshub	of course the problem is i can't prove it without
running my mouth about shit people don'ty generally believe anyhow
[22:54] 	ShadowDXS	well
[22:54] 	ShadowDXS	either prove it or shush then :D
[22:56] 	namshub	can't prove that nay more than i can prove the easter
bunny is a fraud
[22:56] 	namshub	it's more two plus three equals potato
[22:56] 	namshub	but I have had contact with some of the folks who are
accused of running such a thing
[22:57] 	namshub	and they are not only baffled but completely internet
illiterate old people
[23:00] 	namshub	believe me when i say companies get jobs they don't
qualify for based on how slow the gov't is to get caught up
[23:04] 	ShadowDXS	O_o
[23:05] 	namshub	tl;dr is, the higher up yopu go, the older the folks you get
[23:05] 	namshub	they're all ex-military
[23:05] 	namshub	they know zip about internets
[23:05] 	namshub	let aone how to exploit
[23:06] 	namshub	occasionally a sec company will sing a pretty song
and get a nibble
[23:06] 	namshub	someday, I'll tell ya baout some of these fools
[23:06] 	namshub	metalgear and the like could only happen if all
parties were both devious, super competent, and willing
[23:07] 	namshub	it would NEVER happen
[23:07] 	namshub	One of us (backtrace)
[23:07] 	namshub	has been offered fed jobs spying on terrorists
[23:07] 	namshub	after ya know, catching a few red handed
[23:08] 	namshub	job offers pay less than managing a mickey d's